tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post7528455196828390940..comments2023-10-28T17:06:41.920-07:00Comments on Saline Valley Salt Tram: Charles William (C. W.) Hayes and his Moreland Motor TrucksTim Waaghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-5124057983543045782016-01-25T18:41:46.438-08:002016-01-25T18:41:46.438-08:00The web site also gets it wrong and says the C. W....The web site also gets it wrong and says the C. W. Hayes truck was carrying sacks of COAL, but it was actually carrying bags of Salt from Saline Valley that was trucked out of Saline Valley via San Lucas Canyon on one of the craziest roads ever built!<br />Tim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-68574550993109746542016-01-25T18:39:32.758-08:002016-01-25T18:39:32.758-08:00On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:20 AM, John Hayes wrote:
...On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:20 AM, John Hayes wrote:<br /><br />Hi Tim:<br /> <br />My name is John HAYES. I'm Charles Hayes youngest grandson. Anyway sometime I would like to talk to you about the mine and tram. I live in Tehachapi and would like to get a little info from you. When i was a kid 5-7 years old my dad took me out there a couple of times. I plan on returning, but want to prepare a bit info wise. The building that housed Moreland trucks in Bakersfield is still there. I toured it a couple months ago. It is a auto paint store now. The tenant allowed me to take a few pictures. I would think it should be a "historical" bldg, but I don't think it is.<br /> <br />Charles Hayes is my role model. He was a great man. He lost a lot of money on the mining/trucking deal (I don't know all the details) but he didn't go bankrupt and he paid all his debts.<br /> <br />Call or email me sometime. I would love to talk to you. I recall a few things my dad told me.<br /> <br />A part of California history.<br /> <br />Best Regards,<br /> <br />JOHN MARTIN HAYES<br /> <br />hayesj@xxx<br />xxx-xxx-5627 <br />Tim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-78757245386832135292014-05-21T16:54:55.910-07:002014-05-21T16:54:55.910-07:00I'm just wondering if the truck in the picture...I'm just wondering if the truck in the picture with the caption on the photo-San Lucas Canyon Road-just before the falls 1928-1930 is an International rather than a Moreland.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08463293089607687393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-68218710370630125882014-04-19T00:13:39.322-07:002014-04-19T00:13:39.322-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10526122229062643255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-54184383214506812962013-12-22T19:40:01.482-08:002013-12-22T19:40:01.482-08:00Tim, i found this booklet today, tells all about t...Tim, i found this booklet today, tells all about the saline valley project, do you have it? if not i can copy and send it, i enclosed a copy of the cover and a couple of pages, one pic just happens to be the same one you sent.<br />Bob<br />Tim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-53467818712734474832013-12-22T15:20:01.413-08:002013-12-22T15:20:01.413-08:00Tim, thanks for keeping me in the loop i'm goi...Tim, thanks for keeping me in the loop i'm going to mother in laws house today to find more pics, she told me the other day that her dad (charles hulin hayes) also drove that same truck from time to time and a couple of his brothers did too, they worked for C.W. once in a while im thinking they may be the other men in the pics you sent i'll find out.<br />BobTim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-25909532791376332792013-12-22T12:09:03.419-08:002013-12-22T12:09:03.419-08:00Hi, Tim —
You can find the first picture fairly r...Hi, Tim —<br /><br />You can find the first picture fairly readily online: the url http://www.owensvalleyhistory.com/bishop_residents/page48b.html brings you to a page that labels it as "the infamous <br />Watterson Bank" and says it was located on the northwest corner of Main and Academy Streets in Bishop. The picture is labeled as having been taken in 1926. The Wattersons appear to have an interesting history as rabble-rousers in the Owens Valley in the wake of construction of the Los Angeles Aqueduct. Hope this helps!<br /><br />Liz B.<br />Tim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-21476268923045981052013-12-18T02:05:00.355-08:002013-12-18T02:05:00.355-08:00Hello Tim, Thanks for the pics you sent, i made a ...Hello Tim, Thanks for the pics you sent, i made a little mistake though its Charles Wesley Hayes, Charles William Hayes is his grandson and he just turned 80. C.W. lived 5-7-1885 to 10-4-1977, i sent a couple more pics from the brochure i have showing the rear axle design, one of them is the same pic you have but in a different article. Im going to mother in laws asap to see if she has more pics i remember seeing all kinds of them a long time ago.<br />Take care,<br />BobTim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-33311034622486760732013-12-18T01:47:14.534-08:002013-12-18T01:47:14.534-08:00Hello Tim and Brian,
I think what they meant by 4 ...Hello Tim and Brian,<br />I think what they meant by 4 wheel drive is that all four rear wheels are driven see the pic from the brochure i have, also he's the one driving in the first pic, and he's standing next to the man in the suit in the next pic.<br /><br />BobTim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481705257771458325.post-2356074686199476022013-12-18T01:32:35.624-08:002013-12-18T01:32:35.624-08:00Hello, My name is Bob D., from Bakersfield Ca., i ...Hello, My name is Bob D., from Bakersfield Ca., i saw your website about the saline valley and thought you may be interested in a couple of pics i have of C.W. Hayes (Charles William Hayes), he is my wifes great grandfather, the same one in the pics on your website. These pics were handed down to me long ago. Of course he has passed on, so has his son Charles Hulin Hayes, who was a truck driver too, but his two grandsons are still living (Bill and Bob Hayes, as his granddaughter Cleo who is my mother in law.<br />As you can see in the pics there is an article attesting to the fact that a Moreland truck he owned was better than he had anticipated and called it a "wonder truck". I have a bunch of original sales brochures too.<br />See the attachment for the pic and story.<br />Thanks<br />BobTim Waaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519482487162530986noreply@blogger.com